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I think the seminar was well structured. I especially appreciated the focus/narration on the reference points. I'm familiar with "gates" or Zones or perimeters (all same meaning) but never such structure on the 3D points in space. I was however skeptical as to the mobility in dealing with rushes/shots or even kicks, but then I'm not a practicing HFY member at the moment.
 

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Great exposure to new concepts of creating and controlling space
 

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Very informative, great atmosphere, easy to understand, concepts had a nice format for learning. Thank you.
 

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Great time, friendly instructors, knowledgeable instructors, new and enlightening, interesting history, museum is wonderful.
 

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I enjoyed it very much! Thank you for the experience!!
 

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I truly enjoyed the information given at the seminar. It is an excellent style taught by truly inspired people. It is a joy to see people who love the style and are willing to share so openly. The people in the school are very friendly and supportive. Thank you.
 

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It showed me different techniques which I believe will be useful. The leg movements were useful and easy to derive power. Never did Kiu Sau before - PRETTY COOL.
 

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It gave me an entirely different view of Wing Chun. I see many similarities in our own style. Sifu and Sigung made it entertaining. Very good atmosphere. I love the art. Each person, student, and helper was very nice and patient. I'd love to come back. Gives me a whole new style of Chi Sau, sort of, Kiu Sau
 

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A lot of information. We have a lot of similar concepts. Enjoyed the physical stuff. Will enjoy the book when it comes out.
 

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Kiu Sau Seminar
 
The workshop covered a lot of information and was very insightful. The concept of used a three track system to teach HFY allows for a philosopher, strategically and technical approach. The zen (chan) philosophy of Saam Mauh Kiu supports the three stages of learning and the training in the use of Kiu Sau (bridge hand) provides the student was a realistic manner of dealing with attacking and defending simultaneously. The exposure to "Mo Ying Da Ying, Yau Ying Da Ying" provided a new insight into Kiu Sau training. The shadow and shape concepts increase the awareness and reaction time for conflict. The Sup Ming Dim (10 bright points) of the HFY Formula are consistent and are applied to the hand and foot techniques and are useful in changing the lines and the five stages of combat. HFY is a combat system and requires intellectual as well as physical training in order to gain the deeper meanings of the concepts. Sigung Gee was very clear and concise in the presentation
 

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I found the history to be fascinating. With almost no training in Wing Chun much of the technique was over my head but still informative.
 

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It seems like a very sound and fundamental art. I would need to train more to fully understand it.
 

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The seminar was very interesting in general. I enjoyed learning new applications to Wing Chun. It was a bit difficult for me because my main background is in Wing Chun Do but it was a very worthwhile experience.
 

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Excellent workshop!! A lot of useful information was presented. Many students were available to provide assistance. It really made me look at Wing Chun from a completely different angle.
 

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I really enjoyed this seminar. I learned quite a bit. You guys really have a great understanding of Wing Chun. Thank you so much. - Andrew Garfield.
 

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I'd like to thank Benny Meng, the VT Museum family and Grand Master Gee for an incredible weekend. The information I've been exposed to has forever changed the way I look at martial arts. My thanks go out to you all for preserving this treasure, Hung Fa Yi Wing Chun - James Cooper
 

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Today being the only day that I was able to attend the HFY workshop, it has been the best experience for me thus far. In the future I hope that I can attend the entire 3 days. Sitaigung is very thorough and very clear in his teachings making this art much easier to understand. Can't wait for the next seminar! Thanks! - Mike Leidy (Akron, OH)
 

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It was great. I learned for the first time and felt the power of structure and position. How strength and power is second place to proper structure. Master Gee was great so was Master Meng. Thank you for the training this weekend - Alan Vaughn
 

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I felt that Sitaigung's explanation of the difference between Kiu Sau and Chi Sau was excellent. Sitaigung's direct approach about the way he feels and explains things are refreshing. The seminar was fantastic. Thanks to all for this opportunity especially Sitaigung. - James (Akron, OH)
 

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The reference point for this seminar was the kuent kuit "mo ying da ying - yau ying da ying". We learned the deep meanings behind this kuen kuit through a myriad of Kiu Sau exercises. The Kiu Sau exercises progressed through Fau Kiu Kiu Sau to Deui Ying Kiu Sau and on to Bong Sau Kiu Sau. We explored the true deep meaning of the kuen kuit and proper structure of Kiu Sau. This exploration revealed many levels of details involved in performing these exercises correctly. The learning process also gave a cleared understanding of the proper time and space for Kiu Sau, Chi Sau and Saan Da. - David
 

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The sixth HFY workshop offered ground breaking information for me in regards to the relationship between Kiu Sau, Chi Sau and Saan Da. The clarity of the system and it's consistency is unmatched. Sigung Gee is a living treasure and an amazing resource of this unique information! He is an inspiration to all martial artists. - Chango Noaks (Saat Geng Sau)
 

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Like several of the past workshops I've attended presented by Grand Master Gee, they are always quite informative. I especially like the focus on the Kiu Sau exercises that related to the movements of the form. Clearly HFY is a practical art, ready for combat from the very beginning. Everything is in the forms. I would also like to express my deepest appreciation to Grand Master Garrett Gee for taking the time to come to Dayton and sharing his knowledge. I would like to thank Sifu Benny Meng for hosting this great event.
 

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HFY continues to open my eyes. This workshop was the first in history to discuss Kiu Sau and it's uniqueness to the HFY framework of 5-Line and 6 gate theories. Although there are other families that have Kiu Sau (aside from Wing Chun), only 2 Wing Chun families out of all Wing Chun and both trace their families to Shaolin. The other families have either Kiu Sau or Chi Sau. HFY has Kiu Sau, Chi Sau and Saan Da. Also integral to training HFYWCK is understanding the Shaolin concept of 3 levels of learning (SMK). Without this concept it is difficult for the student-teacher relationship to really harmonize. This philosophy allows the student to recognize where they are in the system and allows the teacher to recognize where is the student's understanding. Again, this is from a training perspective. There was a tremendous amount of information, but I wanted to bring up just a couple of points. Thank you to the HFY family for helping my kung fu identity grow. - Savi Kruoch
 

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Interesting introduction into HFY WCK System: Thank you for the invitation. I enjoyed the explications from the cultural as well as the 10 Ming Dim structural points.
 

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Excellent workshop which explains the nature of Chi Sau through the nature of Kiu Sau. Like drills from past workshops, time will be needed to develop the Kiu Sau. I also feel that the Kiu Sau drills depend upon the development of the fundamentals learned from the Level 1 and Level 2 requirements of the HFY curriculum.
 

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The details in which Grand Master Gee went into in describing the principle and ideology encompassing Kiu Sau was very informative. This workshop was a nice progression or follow-up of the last. The self awareness Grand Master Gee describes in one's ability to use and execute the proper Kiu Sau could only be found in a system based on the 3 Jewels of Shaolin, such as Hung Fa Yi. The distinct character of and time from of Kiu Sau, Chi Sau and Saan Da must be understood in order to progress in real martial arts training. Without this knowledge you will remain Fau Kiu in your awareness of self-identity and your martial training. I would like to thank Grand Master Gee for his willingness to share his vast knowledge. Thanks to my Sigung Master Meng for being such a gracious host. Thanks to my Sifu Richard Loewenhagen for giving me this wonderful opportunity. Thank you very much. - Anthony Jacobs
 

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The 6th public HFY Seminar was extremely rewarding. Grand Master Garrett Gee continually keeps raising the bar and delivering. I really enjoyed the presentation of the material followed by ample time to work and experience the exercise. By doing do, it made helped me gain a better understanding of what was being taught. This will help me take home a clearer understanding of how to work the current drills. This was been an awesome seminar - Adam Boyar (Akron, OH)
 

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An excellent display of skill and wisdom from many perspectives! Extremely details and comprehensive! Sigung Gee is a fountain of Kung Fu! I am eagerly awaiting another seminar to learn more from him! I have a new clarity of HFY and its history and philosophy! Thanks to Sigung Gee and the VT Museum for the opportunity to learn such a great art and science!
 

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Excellent seminar. As always, Sigung presented a wealth of information, emphasizing central concepts like the importance of structure and maintaining identity. The concept of Kiu Sau was very well explained. - Pat Keeley
 

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To Grand Master Gee and Master Meng: I want to thank the two of you for allowing me to come to your workshop. To say the least, this has been the most enlightening and informative martial arts training I have ever been a part of. I have learned more about the principles of combat in one weekend than I have learned in 20 plus years of my journey in the martial arts. I hope to become a student of Hung Fa Yi with the start of the New Year. Once again, thank you for allowed em to be a part of this wonderful and enlightening learning experience. - James M. Tunstall
 

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Well the seminar started off on the right foot for me. The rich knowledge of the HFY history was greatly appreciated. I found all the information of Kiu Sau filled many gaps in my knowledge of it. The amount of time Sitaigung was willing to spend with us was great. I had a paradigm shift in my thinking and came to the realization that I will not chi sau at my school till my Kiu Sau is respectable. This was my first trip to the Museum. I found the school to be very well laid out and quite a comfortable atmosphere. The Museum itself was incredible. I took well over 50 pictures and I don't feel I took enough. I hope to be back soon and also visit Sitaigung in San Francisco. - Ryan Jacobson (Phoenix, AZ)
 

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First, I would like to thank Sigung for the workshop and sharing his kung fu and the Hung Fa Yi Wing Chun system. Second, I would like to thank Sifu Meng for the opportunities he has created and offered to enhance the learning of myself and all the kung fu family. Words cannot express my thanks to these two gentlemen - I only hope that my current and future actions express what is in my heart. The workshop was impressive in terms of both volume and depth. The connection between Kiu Sau, Chi Sau and Saan Da is unique and very clear - supported with many examples from both within the HFY system and by those outside the system. As most lineages of Wing Chun do not discuss Kiu Sau and many southern systems do not contain Chi Sau, HFY is a unique treasure, containing information to understand many technologies used in the kung fu world. I appreciated the time Sigung Gee took to explain any and all questions whenever asked. His openness and clarity continue to amaze me. The discussions on structure as opposed to technique along with the time to attack and the time to not attack were interesting and useful to me on several levels. The history added color to what could have been a technical workshop and was greatly appreciated. - Jeremy Roadruck
 

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I had never understood Kiu Sau but I didn't really see the point. I always thought that if I was ever in a confrontation I could go straight into Chi Sau. Now, I understand the need for Chi Sau, if at all comes from Kiu Sau. You can go straight into Saan Da if you know Kiu Sau; Chi Sau doesn't always connect to Saan Da. Chi Sau for me now is a back up tool, you can use it to get back on track. Now I have a better understanding of training methodology. - Mike Davis

 
 
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